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Arguments Against Bush Impeachment...

• If we impeach Bush, we’ll get President Cheney!
The first impeachment resolution introduced by McKinney included Bush, Cheney, and Rice. Although, even if we only initially pursue Bush, initiating the impeachment process will lead to an investigation that will implicate lots of people in the Bush administration who are guilty of committing crimes, including Cheney.

In addition, no matter who we get to replace Bush, we’ll be showing those in power that anyone who breaks the law will be held accountable.

• Promoting impeachment will seem too “extreme.”
Demanding that crimes be investigated is NOT extreme. Some previous impeachment attempts were considered extreme because they were pursued for actions that didn't rise to the level of a Constitutional crisis, which is what the impeachment tool is meant to be used for. Nixon's impeachment, however, was bipartisan.

  • We should wait to impeach...
Wait to impeach? We've waited 3 or more years too long already. We had enough evidence to impeach years ago. Remember, an impeachment only means you have enough evidence to warrant a trial, just like an indictment. Our congress people didn't take an oath to bipartisanship. They took an oath to the Constitution. Besides which, our troops, Iraqi civilians, and our own civil liberties are all waiting for this.
 
• Before we impeach, we should get some legislation passed...
And with unconstitutional Presidential Signing Statements, veto power, and the power of "Commander in Chief" at his disposal, how do you think Congress is going to get anything accomplished without first impeaching Bush?

If your tire blows while you're driving, do you stop to fix it? Or do you continue driving on your rim because to stop would take too much time?

• It hurts the democracy to go through a presidential impeachment. And Bush is a lame duck anyway.
Holding government officials accountable for their actions strengthens our democracy. Letting lawlessness stand weakens it.

Sometimes reprimanding a child (president) doesn't make the family (Washington) a happy place. But you still have to do it so the child and his siblings (future presidents) learn about accountability. Impeachment is horribly UNDERUSED, which is part of why there's so much corruption at the top. Politicians must learn to fear it. After this last election, some folks felt better since the make-up of our law-making body (Congress) changed. But Bush is BREAKING LAWS. So, it doesn't matter how many laws Congress passes if they don't serve their OVERSIGHT duties as well by impeaching. They swore to defend the Constitution. What are laws without enforcement?

Besides, considering Bush's track-record of breaking laws, he can still do a lot of damage. Our troops, Iran, and our Supreme Court are all endangered so long as he remains in office. Waiting until Bush is out of office will leave us complicit in any further crimes he commits. The Union of Concerned Scientists has estimated that the death toll from a "tactical" nuclear weapon of the kind Bush has contemplated using in Iran would be at minimum 3 million men, women, and children. The path of death would stretch across country boundaries into India.

Perhaps worst of all, we set a terrible precedent by allowing Bush to stay in office after he's broken so many laws. Impeachment will stop future presidents from using Bush's actions as justification for even more lawbreaking and erosion of civil liberties.

• I'm a Democrat/Republican. If we support impeachment it will lower the chances of my party winning in 2008.

So, your party would rather win elections than do what's right for the country? I hope you're wrong. I also hope the public is willing to throw additional support to any party that holds our elected officials accountable for their actions. This has been historically true with every single impeachment effort launched. And this impeachment effort would begin with majority support (unlike most past impeachments including Nixon).

• Impeachment will never happen. Congress members will block it.
Well, all we need is a majority of support in the House. And 2/3rds vote in the Senate to remove Bush from office will happen once the evidence gets aired on the floor of the House, and subsequently the national media outlets. The political pressure will become too great.

Today's impossibility is tomorrow's reality. Congress members will realize that tying their political future to Bush reduces their chances of getting elected. Remember, one way or another, Bush is gone by 2009— but members of Congress may retain their offices beyond that date. Bush's poll numbers are extremely low, and most Americans support impeachment. This is a bipartisan movement. This means that if we make the pressure unbearable for Members of Congress, they'll turn on him to keep their own seats (like they did with Nixon). It's already starting to happen. While many Members of Congress have behaved unethically in the last few years, it's important to understand that this is related to their warped view of what's in their self-interest. Let's wake them up to their true self-interest (impeaching the president), by showing them our support for impeachment.

And even if we only impeach, and the Senate fails to do their duty and remove him from office, it will only implicate the Senators who fail to do their sworn Constitutional duty.

• But Speaker of the House Pelosi said that Impeachment was "off the table."

Pelosi most likely said this to remove any appearance of conflict-of-interest that would arise if she were thrust into the presidency as a result of the coming impeachment. What we need to do is to pressure Pelosi not to interfere with impeachment maneuverings within her party. Sending her Do-It-Yourself impeachments legitimizes her when she joins the impeachment movement in the future.

• But the public doesn't support impeachment.
Newsalert: Newsweek's recent poll shows 51% support for Impeachment.  Not to mention that Bush's approval ratings are less than half that of Nixon's prior to his impeachment investigations.

•You're just angry at what happened to Clinton
Impeachment is a nonpartisan issue. It's not about Clinton, Lincoln, or any other president. Some previous impeachment attempts were considered a waste of time because they were pursued for things that didn't rise to the level of a Constitutional crisis, which is what the Impeachment tool was intended for. The argument that we can't impeach Bush because there are previous presidents who also did bad things is the same as the argument you might hear from your child that you shouldn't punish him because the neighbor's kid did the same thing and didn't get punished. We don't want a presidential rush to the lowest common denominator. We have a duty to hold THIS president accountable to the Constitution.

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Feingold hopes, expects new AG to say president is not above the law
Posted in Impeachment News on November 21st, 2008 by Mikael


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Nick Juliano

In exclusive interview, Democratic Senator outlines hopes for next administration

President-elect Barack Obama prepares to enter the White House with his plate full of domestic and international crises — financial markets in free-fall, auto companies nearing collapse, millions of Americans struggling to keep their homes, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Along with those pressing, front-page issues Obama also will have to swiftly redefine President Bush's attempts …


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[VIDEO] World Leaders Refuse to Shake Bush's hand at G20 Summit
Posted in Impeachment Progress News on November 20th, 2008 by Mikael


Lamest of lame ducks, soon-to-be-ex-President George W. Bush is roundly ignored by world leaders at the G20 summit conference recently. Ouch. Maybe the judgement of the world will accomplish what attempts at impeachment most likely will not.


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[Video] First Lady of France Carla Bruni Disses Bush on Letterman
Posted in Impeachment News on November 19th, 2008 by Mikael


When asked on last night's 'Late Show with David Letterman' about French reaction to the recent election of President-elect Barack Obama, Bruni gushed: "Oh! France is thrilled… yes, delighted. I think the whole world is delighted."
When asked how her husband, the President of France gets along with Bush she said: "They have to… No choice." which was met with audience laughter and applause.


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'Lingering Executive Privilege' - The Privilege That Wouldn't Die!!
Posted in Impeachment News on November 16th, 2008 by Marshalldoc


Democrats' plans to investigate Bush administration may be blocked

By Charlie Savage
Thursday, November 13, 2008
Copyright © 2008 The International Herald Tribune

WASHINGTON: When a congressional committee subpoenaed Harry Truman


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ANOTHER Reason to Impeach: Bush Can Block Subpoenas AFTER Leaving Office
Posted in Impeachment News on November 13th, 2008 by Mikael


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Bush may be able to block subpoenas even after leaving office
John Byrne

President-Elect Obama seems tepid on investigating Bush

President George W. Bush appears likely to claim executive privilege in blocking subpoenas after he leaves office, according to a report Wednesday.

Three Congressional investigations into the President and his administration remain open. They include the role of Bush advisers Karl Rove and Harriet Miers in the firing of eight US …


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Posted in Impeachment Evidence on October 13th, 2008 by Mikael



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Former military linguists allege NSA routinely eavesdropped on the private phone calls
Posted in Impeachment Evidence on October 10th, 2008 by Angela


cellphone.jpgJonathan S. Landay, McClatchy Newspapers

The Senate Intelligence Committee is examining allegations by two former U.S. military linguists that the super-secret National Security Agency routinely eavesdropped on the private telephone calls of American military officers, journalists and aid workers.

NSA interceptors purportedly shared some intercepts of highly personal conversations, including "phone sex."

If the allegations are true, they could re-ignite a political firestorm over the administration's post-9/11 eavesdropping operations and its efforts to collect …


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Documents Say American Detainee Near Insanity
Posted in Impeachment Evidence on October 8th, 2008 by Angela


prisoner-guantanamo-bay-cuba.jpgPamela Hess, The Associated Press

A U.S. military officer warned Pentagon officials that an American detainee was being driven nearly insane by months of punishing isolation and sensory deprivation in a U.S. military brig, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.

While the treatment of prisoners at detention facilities at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and in Afghanistan and Iraq have long been the subject of human rights complaints and court scrutiny, the documents …


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Bush admin tried to create 'Gitmo inside the US'
Posted in Impeachment Evidence on October 8th, 2008 by Angela


gitmo_animated_big.jpgNick Juliano, Raw Story

The US military was using the same procedures employed at the controversial Guantanamo Bay prison at other facilities inside the United States where US citizens and legal residents were detained, according to documents released Wednesday.

At least one Navy officer was concerned that a detainee was being slowly driven insane by the policies, which prohibited detainees from having items such as shoes or socks, according to 91 pages of …


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FCC to Probe Defense Department's 'Propaganda' Program
Posted in Impeachment Evidence on October 8th, 2008 by Angela


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The Federal Communications Commission has announced that it will investigate a Department of Defense propaganda program to determine whether news networks or military analysts violated the Communications Act of 1934 and FCC rules.

Earlier this year, The New York Times reported that a Department of Defense program had ex-military officers presenting the Bush administration’s position on the War on Terror as objective …


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Prison-Industrial Complex Investment Brings Unexpected Dividends!
Posted in Related to Impeachment, GoodNews on November 19th, 2008 by Marshalldoc


Texas grand jury indicts Cheney, Gonzales of crime

Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:49am EST
Copyright 2008 Reuters. All rights reserved.

HOUSTON (Reuters) - A grand jury in South Texas indicted U.S. Vice President Dick


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Non-Existent Gov't Evidence v Detainees Disappears Under Harsh Glare of Habeas Corpus
Posted in Related to Impeachment on November 2nd, 2008 by Marshalldoc


Cases Against Detainees Have Thinned

By Del Quentin Wilber - Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 2, 2008; A02
© 2008 The Washington Post Company

    Algerians' Habeas Corpus Hearings Will Begin With Fewer and Lesser Charge…


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Military Begins 1st Worthwhile Gitmo Investigation!
Posted in Impeachment Related News on October 28th, 2008 by Marshalldoc


Guantanamo tribunals overseer under investigation

By Josh Meyer
October 25, 2008
Copyright 2008 Los Angeles Times

Thomas Hartmann, an Air Force brigadier general, is accused of improperly influencing prosecutions.
Reporting from Washington - A Pentagon official


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As Habeas Reviews By Authentic Courts of Law Approach… Suddenly Those "Terrorists" Aren't Really Worth Prosecuting After All.
…it's called 'running scared'

Posted in Related to Impeachment on October 21st, 2008 by Marshalldoc


Lawyers For Briton At Guantanamo:  Charges Dropped

Oct 21, 2008 - 8:50 AM (ET)
Copyright 2008 Associated Press. All right reserved.
© 2008 IAC Search & Media. All rights reserved.

LONDON (AP) - Lawyers for a British


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Bush Never Seriously Considered Closing Gitmo… Lied All Along (is anyone surprised?)
Posted in Impeachment Related News on October 21st, 2008 by Marshalldoc


Bush Decides to Keep Guantánamo Open

By STEVEN LEE MYERS
October 21, 2008
Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

WASHINGTON - Despite his stated desire to close the American prison at Guantánamo Bay,


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